In this episode, we sit down with Emmy-nominated producer, writer, director, and author Douglas J. Sloan, best known for his work on the Power Rangers franchise and his memoir Morphers, Monsters, and Mayhem.
We talk about what it was really like behind the scenes in Hollywood, how Power Rangers became a global phenomenon, and how storytelling has changed over the decades. Douglas shares insights on creativity, the importance of mentorship, why every great story needs a great villain, and how AI is changing the entertainment industry and creative work.
This conversation is part Hollywood history, part storytelling masterclass, and part reflection on how the world of creativity, media, and entertainment has evolved over time. If you love movies, storytelling, or behind-the-scenes Hollywood stories, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He helped create one of the most iconic kids' TV franchises of the 90s, worked behind the scenes in Hollywood for decades, and has stories that most fans would never believe actually happened.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: From wild production moments to unforgettable off-camera adventures, his journey through television, writing, and storytelling is full of surprises, and one particular story he shares today completely changed how he saw the… sees the entire industry.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the You World Order Showcase Podcast, where we feature life health transformational coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, The Coach's Alchemist, on a mission to help
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Coaches and spiritual entrepreneurs amplify their voice, monetize their mission, and get visible. If you're ready to start attracting premium clients without chasing algorithms or hunting people down like a banshee on a mission, head on over to Coachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit. It's the first step to building a business where your clients seek you out rather than you having to hunt them down. Today, we are chatting with Douglas J. Sloan.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Douglas is an Emmy-nominated producer, writer, director, author, and songwriter with decades of experience in television and storytelling. He is best known for his work connected to the Power Rangers franchise, and is the author of Amorphers, Monsters, and Mayhem, My Travels Through the Power Rangers Galaxy, a brutally honest and entertaining memoir that takes readers behind the scenes of Hollywood and one of the most iconic
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::t: kids' TV franchises of the:7
::Douglas Sloan: Well, thank you so much for having me. This is awesome. Very nice to see you.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So let me ask you the big question. What's the most significant thing, in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going?
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::Douglas Sloan: I think that… The best thing we can do is… involves mentorship.
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::Douglas Sloan: And… passing on…
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::Douglas Sloan: the qualities that we find important, and the values that we find important to the next generation. Because at the end of the day.
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::Douglas Sloan: we're… we are what we… we're where we're at. I mean, it's… things move very, very, very slowly in the world. It's like a big, huge ocean liner that needs to be turned around, and we may not turn it around, you know, our generation. So for me, it's all about
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::Douglas Sloan: passing it on and making good people out of this generation that's coming up, and it's their responsibility to make good people out of a generation that's coming after them. And, you know, that all starts with…
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::Douglas Sloan: Parenting.
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::Douglas Sloan: and teaching, and education, you know? It's laughable to me how little the educational system is supported in this country, and how much it is supported in other countries. And I think that really, truly is the key to…
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::Douglas Sloan: You know… to our future. I mean, we face some incredibly difficult challenges now, because
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::Douglas Sloan: With the advent of social media, it's created a myriad of false information that is Accepted as truth.
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::Douglas Sloan: And so, that's a huge challenge that I never had to deal with, you probably never had to deal with. I mean, when we were kids.
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, if you wanted to find out who won a football game or whatever, you had to wait till the newspaper the next day if you didn't watch it. It was like, now everything's instant, everybody knows everything, but it's… so it's difficult, it's hard, you know?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's hard to know what is actually the truth.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: A lot of times, it's like, you're lied to so much.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That it's hard to… To know whether…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: kids aren't… haven't been taught this for a lot of years, but to understand what is reasonable, what is the reasonable expectation I have for the answer being what I'm seeking information about?
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::Douglas Sloan: Right.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And… you're gonna see this with… as AI becomes more and more prevalent.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you know, my son was talking about, I haven't…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I have lots of kids, but one of them is an older person, and he was talking about college, and how kids are using, AI to generate answers to questions, and teachers are just using AI to grade it.
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::Douglas Sloan: Ugh.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Like, what's the point?
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah. It's… it's nuts, because I have… I recently discovered that an executive I was working with is using AI to give me notes
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::Douglas Sloan: On my script.
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::Douglas Sloan: And it's like… Okay… okay, but, you know, it's not… It's just not… The way creativity has
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::Douglas Sloan: blossomed in the world. It's just, you know, to me, AI is just a big, huge, fat database that has every bit of information possibly crammed in there that's, you know, then tweaked and generated and spit back out.
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::Douglas Sloan: And so, you're basically getting other people's thoughts and ideas and this and that and the other thing, and it… it voids the ability to create your own, you know? I mean, kids back in the day, if you wanted to cheat, you had to buy a term paper.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And use somebody else's brains.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, I actually had a friend who was making a couple of hundred thousand bucks a year. He had probably a thousand term papers on every different subject you could imagine, and he was making a
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::Douglas Sloan: ton of money, you just sell term papers. That's what it was. But now, you just go on ChatGPT, you type in, you know, I want to write a report on this.
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::Douglas Sloan: Can you help me? And I'm actually… I actually am well-versed in AI, because I've studied all the different platforms, and I create music videos with it, and that type of thing, just as sales tools.
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::Douglas Sloan: But, you know, most… a lot of the stuff you see is AI-generated on TV and commercials and all that, you know?
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::Douglas Sloan: And… That's what's coming, you know? That's what's here.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's what's here, but I think people are kind of getting… over it.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, I agree.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're, they're, they're demanding realism.
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::Douglas Sloan: Hmm.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We either want… specifically, it's going to be anime or cartoons.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Or, it's going to be… I don't want… the…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the pretend stuff. Yeah. And… and we… we look for it. I… I spent… My father likes to watch
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: AI-generated videos.
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::Douglas Sloan: Okay.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He watches YouTube.
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::Douglas Sloan: Okay.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: 90 years old, it's like…
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::Douglas Sloan: Wow. My dad's 93, so I feel you. Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, I'm amazed that you're, like, up on the technology.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, it's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We… we would watch them, and it's like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: can you tell if this is AI or not? And can you find the AI pieces to this? And I learned a lot about video making from him, because we were watching these videos, and he watches some other stuff that's just, like, magnificent photography and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Real-life adventures.
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::Douglas Sloan: Right, right.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're out there video blogging.
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::Douglas Sloan: With drones and stuff like that. Oh, God, yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, just.
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::Douglas Sloan: Amazing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the music that they put behind it.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The Sailing Magic Carpet is one of them that I will just plug right now.
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::Douglas Sloan: Okay.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they're… they built this sailboat, and now they're… they were sailing up around the, Victoria…
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::Douglas Sloan: Victoria Island? Vancouver Island?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Vancouver Island, up in Canada, and it just, like, Incredible thing.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I just, like…
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, it's… it's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The meditation one.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, I mean, AI definitely is going to be… it's not now, but it's going to be indistinguishable someday. I mean, at some point, it is going to be indistinguishable. It's just a matter of…
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, the chips and the engines they use, and that type of thing. But, you know, now, YouTube… I used to love YouTube. I really did, and nothing against it, but I go on there now, and it's like, God, I want to see something real. I don't want to see…
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::Douglas Sloan: I don't want to get all involved in this story and then go to the comments, AI slop, this is AI, they're actors, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. It's like, God, man, it's so…
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::Douglas Sloan: Not what that platform started as, and it bums me out, you know?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Well, that's why, you know, people like Itchy Boots and Sailing Magic Carpet, who are making real life… this is…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: what we're experiencing, they're not doing AI anything, and they… they aren't even really… some of them aren't even being monetized by the platform, or trying to, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they're all monetized by the platform, because that's YouTube's model, but they… they're not pitching their own products, they're just, like, they have Patreon accounts and other ways.
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::Douglas Sloan: Right.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: people can support them. But I really…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: admire some of these people that are doing real work out there, and sharing.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard. I mean, I grew up as a musician. I played from the time I was 8 years old, and I still play to this day, as you can see.
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::Douglas Sloan: And when I was, you know, my teens and that, and I had bands, if you wanted to make a record, you had to go into a recording studio, pay $200 an hour, and put… you had 24 tracks on tape.
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::Douglas Sloan: and you had to play perfectly, and you had to sing perfectly, or sing it 20 times to get it perfect, and then they had… when you mixed it, there was 5 guys on a mixing board that were making the moves to mix the song. That's how I remember, or I learned how to make music. And now.
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::Douglas Sloan: They make music in bedrooms, which…
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::Douglas Sloan: You know, okay, whatever, but it's just… it really has…
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::Douglas Sloan: I mean, if you look at… here's an example. If you look at the Queen, you know, the group Queen, if you look at Night of the Opera, which I think belongs in the Smithsonian, it's one of the most brilliant pieces of art I've ever seen and heard in my life, that… that is an example of the
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::Douglas Sloan: height of creativity in the analog world. And that… I mean, I just don't see that happening. How could you do that
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, how could you ever, ever come up with something like that, sitting in a room and prompting an AI thing? It just doesn't…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There are still people making music.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, tons!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's really good music.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's a group out there called the Bygones.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're on YouTube, and they're starting to get onto Spotify, but they are fantastic musicians!
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And they're fun, and they… they're kind of quirky, and I… it's like, their music is…
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::Douglas Sloan: I love it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Good!
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::Douglas Sloan: I love it. Songwriting is just so…
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::Douglas Sloan: key, you know, and that's even being sort of swooped in on a little bit by AI, but AI's not… you know, they don't have the… it doesn't have the soul that songwriters have yet.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes.
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::Douglas Sloan: But yeah, you know…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I don't think it ever will.
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::Douglas Sloan: No, I hope not, because, you know, Nashville will be in trouble. I mean, that's…
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::Douglas Sloan: That's a community of songwriters and real musicians who play instruments and that type of thing. It's what it used to be out in California back in the day.
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::Douglas Sloan: But anyway, I digress. But it's interesting because, you know, talking about my book, those guys, Chaim Saban, who's the head of Saban Entertainment, who…
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::Douglas Sloan: discovered Power Rangers in Japan, and his partner, Shooky Levy.
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::Douglas Sloan: started as a music business, as a cartoon and animation music business. And that's how they made their initial fortune, was that they went to a friend of theirs who was an animation producer.
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::Douglas Sloan: who did Inspector Gadget, and shows like that.
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::Douglas Sloan: And they said, we will give you all the music you need for free.
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::Douglas Sloan: The only thing we want to hang on to is the publishing.
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::Douglas Sloan: And so, that's what happened, and they, you know, they probably generated thousands and thousands of music cues, and got the royalties for all of them. And that's what allowed them to…
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::Douglas Sloan: create the company that became the company that made Power Rangers.
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::Douglas Sloan: You know, it's… it's… It's an… it's amazing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's really interesting to me that so many things come out of Japan.
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::Douglas Sloan: Oh my gosh, it's true.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I spent a lot of time there when I was a kid.
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::Douglas Sloan: You did, okay.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, before we moved to Camarillo.
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::Douglas Sloan: Right? Japan, Tokyo, Cambrian.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, that was actually.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's… you know the, turtles?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: There's… there's a… a character, it's a monster, actually, called the COPPA.
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::Douglas Sloan: Mmm, of course, yeah, I know the couple well.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, okay, so I'm pretty sure that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles came from that.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, it's… everything. Most of the kids' kind of genre stuff.
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::Douglas Sloan: comes from that, because in… when I was a kid, when we were kids, all the animation we saw was revoiced Japanese animation. Speed Racer, all those shows were, except the Hanna-Barbera stuff, you know, were… a lot of those were Japanese shows that had been…
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::Douglas Sloan: reanimated, or revoiced, so the style is very similar, but… but as the story goes, Chaim Saban was there with his wife on a… on… for some completely other reason, and he was in his hotel room, and he was watching this show on TV,
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::Douglas Sloan: called Super Sentai, which is basically Power Rangers. And he's like, oh my gosh, this is… this is gonna be great for the United States, I'm gonna bring this back to the U.S. And so he made a deal.
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::Douglas Sloan: to buy, two seasons, I think, or one season of it, and he brought it back to the U.S, and he made a pilot himself, with his own money, and everybody was like, oh, God, this is horrible. This is… nobody wanted it. Nobody wanted to buy it.
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::Douglas Sloan: And finally, he convinced Fox, kids.
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::Douglas Sloan: to just, you know, order, I think it was 40 episodes, which is the absolute minimum kids order you can make, because they run every day. And,
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::Douglas Sloan: it exploded after 3 days. I mean, it just turned into…
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::Douglas Sloan: mayhem, as it says in the book. You know, it became insane.
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::Douglas Sloan: And the first time you were gonna… you asked, you know, what was the kind of turning point when I knew.
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::Douglas Sloan: that this… it was… they did a… they were doing a live show at Universal Studios. It was…
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::Douglas Sloan: the Power Rangers were going to appear there in a little theater, and it was a kind of a runoff show for kids to go to with their parents so that they could have something for themselves, and blah blah blah. They didn't expect much from it.
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::Douglas Sloan: Well, when it was announced, it was 5 days before the show. On the day of the show, there was a line of cars to exit onto Universal Studios that stretched for 11 miles down the 101.
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::Douglas Sloan: There was hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people that wanted to get in and couldn't.
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::Douglas Sloan: And that's sort of… we all looked at each other and went, oh my god, what hath we wrought? It's just like… it was crazy. It was crazy.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Just… just for perspective for people, this was before the days of cell phones.
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::Douglas Sloan: Damn.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and video, everything. If you wanted to see something like this, you had to go to LA, and you had to wait in these crazy lines in order to be…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in the studio, or to come to one of these functions. It's not like it is today.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, if you miss it, you can just catch it on YouTube later. It's…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It was really different then.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah. There was effort required if you wanted to witness any kind of live performance, or anything like that, and it's a sh… you know, it kind of bums me out, because there's so much that
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::Douglas Sloan: I saw back then, as a kid, or as a teenager, that was so amazing, but no record of it exists.
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::Douglas Sloan: You know, and you can't find it anywhere. You know, my guitar teacher, was a guy named Randy Rhodes, who was the guitar player for Ozzy Osbourne.
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::Douglas Sloan: And unfortunately, he was killed in a plane crash, I think 3 years into his stint with Ozzy.
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::Douglas Sloan: But there's no good recordings of them playing
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::Douglas Sloan: on big stages or anything. There's, like, 2 or 3, you know, little tiny local TV shows they did, but there's nothing to document what was so amazing about that whole thing.
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::Douglas Sloan: And that kind of bums me out. That… but, you know what? That's what it was. You know, you had to go. And I went and watched him play live, and I'll never forget it, you know? It was…
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::Douglas Sloan: It was a moment, it was an event.
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::Douglas Sloan: You know?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And we have… we all have these events, all of us older people.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: events that we remember, that we're kind of…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're… at the time, they didn't seem that significant.
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::Douglas Sloan: Totally true.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Thinking, you know, the 70s is such a… tacky.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: colored era. It was just so bland, but when I look back.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Over the 70s, it was the most peaceful decade.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. That I ever experienced in my entire life.
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::Douglas Sloan: It was so innocent, and it was so, you know, even with…
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, the Vietnam War ending, and all that, and Nixon, and that whole thing, it became… Very, very…
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::Douglas Sloan: Kind of peaceful and mellow, you know?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Kinda.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, people weren't out… Rampaging around and trying to take over the world, like they.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: And if, like, you brought a gun to school or something like that, it was…
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::Douglas Sloan: a national news story, whereas now…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Most of the people in the country used to have them in the back of their pickup trucks.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It would take them to school because they were done hunting.
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::Douglas Sloan: Right.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it wasn't, you know, nobody gave a thought that they were gonna come in and shoot up a classroom.
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::Douglas Sloan: - it was unthinkable. If it was in a movie, you wouldn't believe it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Like, yeah!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And they didn't make movies about stuff like that.
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::Douglas Sloan: I think they may…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, feel-good movies.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, yeah. When I first started at the Disney Channel, you know, making movies for them, you know, I made movies that were fun, about action sports, you know, one of them was Johnny Tsunami, one of them was Motocross, I mean, I made fun…
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::Douglas Sloan: wholesome movies that parents appreciated and kids loved and stuff like that, and it just…
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::Douglas Sloan: They don't make them anymore, really.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Even the Disney movies that are based on Grimm's fairy tales? Yeah. I mean… They… they made them… positive!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Those stories are not positive and uplifting.
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::Douglas Sloan: No.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in their.
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::Douglas Sloan: original.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, I mean, I made… my story… my movie, Johnny Tsunami, was basically based on Romeo and Juliet, which is a great tragedy, but, but flipped on its head, and the Capulets, you know, they were… it was the snowboarders against the skiers instead of…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, okay.
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::Douglas Sloan: The other thing. But, yeah, it's just… it doesn't really happen anymore, and… and, you know, now a family movie is Iron Man, or Guardians of the Galaxy, or something that's got violence, that's got adult themes, it's got stuff like that. It's just…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Incredibles! Yeah. This is totally an adult movie.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's just like, yeah, your kids will watch it, but…
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, but you know what? My favorite…
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::Douglas Sloan: movie, probably of the last 20 years, and I'm a little partial, is How to Train Your Dragon.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that movie.
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::Douglas Sloan: And I… and I were… I actually produced the series, the TV series for How to Train Your Dragon for 8 years, and… but I was… when we were going up for that job, they asked… they told us, you know, you better watch the movie, so we're like.
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::Douglas Sloan: God, do I have to watch an animated kids' movie? I can't believe it, this is horrible. And my partner and I just sat there and watched this thing and went.
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::Douglas Sloan: brilliant! And it's… I don't know, it's just… people… people are trying to shock people, and they're trying to…
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::Douglas Sloan: make people react and all this stuff, and… I mean, my motto is action, heart, and comedy. And if you have those three elements in a movie, TV show, whatever, you're good.
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::Douglas Sloan: You're gone.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: And violence is not on that list.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, it doesn't have to be.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Even if there is some violence in it, it can be in a way that's compassionate.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And not glorifying it, because so often the violence gets to be the thing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: not the…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: not the byproduct, I mean, of telling the story. Every story has to have some conflict or challenge that somebody's overcoming, but that challenge-conflict thing doesn't have to be, like.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the memorable thing of the whole story you're telling. It should just be, like, okay, this is the thing that started the story, and now we're going to tell you the story of how they overcame it.
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::Douglas Sloan: Right.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And that becomes the focus.
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::Douglas Sloan: And that was the thing about Power Rangers, yeah, it was… yeah, there was violence, they did karate fights and stuff like that, but it was good… good versus evil, and they were…
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::Douglas Sloan: rubber monsters, and, you know, and the Power Rangers always won, and you kind of knew that in Act 1, they were gonna fight these guys called the Putty Patrollers, which were these gray guys in
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::Douglas Sloan: these guys in gray spandex suits, and then by act 3, they were gonna fight a monster, and then the monster would grow, and they'd get in the Megazords, and they'd fight the big monster. I mean, that's… every single episode is that's how it went.
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::Douglas Sloan: Because you were… you were writing based on the Japanese footage that you had to use that would be dubbed later. So you knew exactly what it was gonna be, and you just had to come up with some good, wholesome stories to wrap around that that we could shoot with the American kids.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Gone are those days. Now, I think…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah. You know, it's just, like, you don't…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can't have good and evil.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: People just refuse to accept that there is good and there is evil. Everything has to be gray.
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::Douglas Sloan: Right, which is the antithesis of storytelling, really. I mean, you have… I always say, and in my book.
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::Douglas Sloan: Morpher's Monsters, and mayhem.
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::Douglas Sloan: You… I say the most number… the number one most important thing to any story is to have a great villain. Any movie you've ever seen has had… that you've loved has had a great villain. I mean, even Miranda Priestley from Devil Wears Prada.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Great. So good.
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::Douglas Sloan: great villain!
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::Douglas Sloan: Hans Gruber from Die Hard, great villain. Christoph Waltz's character in,
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::Douglas Sloan: the Quentin Tarantino movie, Inglorious Bastards. I mean, he…
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::Douglas Sloan: it was magnificent. It was a violent movie, because it's Quentin Tarantino, but I'm just, like, you have to have a great villain. And I think, you know, the more I work with people today, they don't understand that it can't be some faceless…
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, agency, black ops that you never see or anything. You gotta… there's got to be good versus evil.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the evil can't just be evil, evil.
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::Douglas Sloan: Mmm.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to be evil that has… there's a story that made them that way.
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::Douglas Sloan: Amen?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They… and you… the audience has to know what…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: What caused them to be so evil?
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It can be kind of a warning.
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::Douglas Sloan: That's an unbelievably good point, and I'll tell you why. I was an actor for years, and my acting teacher, a guy named Howard Fine, who's probably the best acting teacher on the planet, he… he said, if you're gonna play Hitler.
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::Douglas Sloan: You cannot, in your heart, mind, brain, whatever, think that you're… this is a bad guy. You have to think, why am… you know, why is he doing… why am I doing what I do? What do I need? What do I want? What… what drives me to this point? What are my beliefs? And you have to invest yourself in that as
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::Douglas Sloan: Insane and delusional as it was, you have to make yourself believe
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::Douglas Sloan: that what you're doing is right, and your objectives, and everything you want. Otherwise.
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::Douglas Sloan: It doesn't read as true, and you don't have a good villain, like you were saying.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And nobody is all any one thing.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Everybody is… An amalgamation of all of these different aspects.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Of… of who we've become and are becoming.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: When you're looking at a villain in a story, you're getting a snapshot of this is where they are from the decisions that they've made in their life up to this point. And the actor, whoever's portraying this, or in the author, needs to help the audience understand how they got there.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then… whether they change or not, I mean, that's part of the story, but…
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's so fascinating, and when you see people that are really good at it, I forget…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: get the guy's name that was in Cannibal… Hannibal…
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::Douglas Sloan: Oh, Anthony Hopkins.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Anthony Hopkins, God, that was such an incredible Incredible portrayal.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He wasn't all… he wasn't all bad.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, you walk away from that movie, and what he did in the movie was just like, ew, ick.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And the whole content of the movie was, ick. But the… the part he played was… It's like…
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah? And, and…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Forget it.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, and it really goes back to the fact that
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::Douglas Sloan: People, like… people who are like that don't…
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::Douglas Sloan: decide to do that one day. They can't… their brain is wired a certain way, and that's what they do. It's like you and, you know, me eating an In-N-Out burger is…
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::Douglas Sloan: to him, it's his normal… you know, him eating someone's liver is… that's as normal to him. It's just against the society norms. So, he's gotta find a way to do it. And even in that scene where he's, you know, killing someone, he doesn't… he doesn't flinch.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He just…
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::Douglas Sloan: It's work. He's doing work, you know?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: butchering in?
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, and that was… yeah, that was, as you said, violence that absolutely
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::Douglas Sloan: was there for a reason, and, you know, because you had Jodie Foster, who was so heroic, but not in an overt kind of… you know, she had her vulnerabilities, which was fantastic.
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, that's what made that work, you know? It was just… it was mind-blowing, and there are so… there are actors that can do that, and…
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::Douglas Sloan: actors that can't. And there are a few out there who just always get to play that part, because they're so good at it. You know, they're just so good at it.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I… yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I, I think… It's what disappoints me when I go and see Star Wars movies today.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: versus the original Star Wars movies, which I'm pretty convinced
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: they modeled off of Dune. It's just like…
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::Douglas Sloan: Okay.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's like… and that's not an original thought, either, because the guy that wrote Dune, Herbert.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I can't remember his name. He… he thought that that…
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::Douglas Sloan: Really?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: too.
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::Douglas Sloan: I never heard that, that's interesting.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, the whole…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Empire, universe-building thing that happened in the first movie, especially, was very similar to Dune.
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::Douglas Sloan: Interesting.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the book, Dune.
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::Douglas Sloan: I never, never… that's… I never heard that. That's interesting.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: I mean, look, there's only 8 stories in the world, you know, going back to the Greeks, so you're gonna… people retell stories all the time. I mean, my Disney movies are mostly based on Shakespearean stuff.
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::Douglas Sloan: You know, it's just… because it works, it's great.
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::Douglas Sloan: But anyway… Yeah, Star Wars, the original Star Wars, you had Darth Vader.
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::Douglas Sloan: And he knew he was the bad guy. There wasn't any doubt about it. That's the bad guy.
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::Douglas Sloan: And… it's… it's not as simple anymore, and I think… Because of kids… And,
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::Douglas Sloan: becoming more sophisticated with seeing everything they see on YouTube and all over the place. It's… the studios believe that they have to make things convoluted and complicated and, you know, this type of thing.
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::Douglas Sloan: But… Yeah, I mean, there's an argument to be made that it's good old-fashioned, bad guys.
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::Douglas Sloan: Are… can be played really differently, and really well, and very interestingly.
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::Douglas Sloan: You don't have to make them…
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::Douglas Sloan: crazy screaming lunatics. In fact, that's kind of boring now.
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::Douglas Sloan: But yeah, it's an interesting place that we're in, and it'll be interesting to see where things go.
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::Douglas Sloan: with the advent of AI, and with people's ability to make movies in their houses, what people are going to come up with. Because the movie studios have been a gateway to
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::Douglas Sloan: filmmakers for cent… you know, centuries, really. It's been… that's where it stops, and that's when you are prevented from
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::Douglas Sloan: making… having your vision, realized. Now, that's not the case. So, it'll be interesting to see what… if AI is allowed to continue and gets better, and is indistinguishable, it'll be interesting to see what stories get told and how good or bad they are.
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::Douglas Sloan: Without studio guidance.
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::Douglas Sloan: That fascinates me.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It is fascinating, and it's interesting to look back over the years from, like, I Love Lucy.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the Smothers Brothers, who are all very edgy.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: per day.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And what… where we've come to now, I mean, when the…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I Love Lucy came out, they were sleeping in separate beds.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah?
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::Douglas Sloan: From the Brady Bunch.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and the Brady Bunch, and I don't…
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::Douglas Sloan: They were the first ones to sleep in the same bed.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: All these… all these memorable moments in history that people don't really appreciate.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Today, because there's so much junk out there, and it's, like.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's hard. And, you know, full disclosure, I had an issue…
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::Douglas Sloan: with the Power Ranger fans, we had an issue with me, because I needed to create some very quick
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::Douglas Sloan: 10-second ads for my book.
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::Douglas Sloan: to put on Instagram and all that, and I did it with an AI program, because I…
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::Douglas Sloan: I mean, that's just what everybody's doing.
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::Douglas Sloan: And I got eviscerated by the Power Ranger fans on, I think it was Twitter, or X, or whatever, that were so absolutely enraged that I would take work from artists.
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::Douglas Sloan: that I had been working with, you know, artists, you rode artists to the top of your career for so many years, and ba-ba-bae, now you're using AI, and… and…
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::Douglas Sloan: In my head, I'm thinking.
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::Douglas Sloan: I promise you, every artist I've ever worked with is using AI now. So, it's not that big a deal.
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::Douglas Sloan: But… you kind of have to just say, okay, you're right. I took the ads down, and…
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::Douglas Sloan: what can you do? Because you're trying to keep your fan base happy, but…
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::Douglas Sloan: people… there is a very huge, contingent of fans and stuff that are absolutely against it, you know? I'm sure the Star Trek fans feel the same way, because they love their actors. I mean, I dated a Star Trek actress once, and man, it is just…
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::Douglas Sloan: mind-blowing how… how dedicated those guys are. So I'm sure AI is not something that they're super stoked about, as they say, but…
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::Douglas Sloan: You know, anyway.
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::Douglas Sloan: What are you gonna do?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's a tool that you have to use these days, though. It's like, if you don't embrace AI to some extent.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, you'll get left behind. You will get left behind. And there's people my age, you know, I've been around
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::Douglas Sloan: 30 years in the business, and at this point, I can do one of two things. I can say, I'm too tired.
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::Douglas Sloan: to deal with it, and learn it, and do it, or I can say, hey, this is kind of fun, and I'm gonna try to get really good at it. And so that's the… that's the route I am taking, is that…
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::Douglas Sloan: Go ahead.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Your Power Ranger fans are probably in their 40s.
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::Douglas Sloan: And it went off the air.
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::Douglas Sloan: 5 years ago, or 6 years ago, so it was on for 30 years. And so I will get fans… like, my editor on, the Dragons TV show was in his late 20s, early 30s, and he came in one day with this big, huge box, which was a toy Megazord.
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::Douglas Sloan: And he…
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, bashfully came in and wanted me to sign it, and he said, man, I just… you changed my life, and this and that. And then there's…
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::Douglas Sloan: 45-year-old people who were there in the very beginning, because the original demographic for that show was ages 2 to 11. So we had 11-year-olds who were running around with action figures. So, yeah, there's a big, big swath of people who
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::Douglas Sloan: Who have watched that show over the years, and…
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::Douglas Sloan: that's why I kind of felt like it was a great time to write this book. And this is the first book which covers my years doing it at Saban Entertainment.
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::Douglas Sloan: And then I was brought back when Disney acquired Power Rangers to set it up in New Zealand, and…
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::Douglas Sloan: change it over to that whole thing. And I worked there for 2 years. So, it's… it's… I've done it in two different
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::Douglas Sloan: Completely different environments, and that's the next book, is gonna be…
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::Douglas Sloan: my time in New Zealand with Power Rangers, which was completely a different experience, because you're working with Disney, and not Saban, and it was in a different country, and the people were completely different, and there… there's just… it was just a different experience, but…
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::Douglas Sloan: You know, it's still Power Rangers.
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::Douglas Sloan: It's still Power Rangers.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's not…
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::Douglas Sloan: I'm the same.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, it really is, it really is, and they're doing a new Power Rangers, from what I hear, at Disney, with the guys who did,
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::Douglas Sloan: Percy Jackson. The Percy Jackson shows?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Huh?
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::Douglas Sloan: And I bet they'll do a great job. I bet it'll be amazing. I can't wait to see it. Because I think they're doing it all original, no spandex, no footage, none of that.
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::Douglas Sloan: So that'll be very interesting to see how that goes, but… yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I, I like those.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: the Percy Jackson thing was… That was really actually kind of a cute show.
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::Douglas Sloan: Oh, it's a great show, yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: It's really well done.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, those guys are very smart.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it by myself.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He's an adult!
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::Douglas Sloan: Me and my wife did. We binged it. I mean, it's great storytelling.
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::Douglas Sloan: Brilliant.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: monsters, and…
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, because you go back to, you know, it's… you go back to that mythology, and it's like, that's the original storytelling.
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::Douglas Sloan: is… is that. So, it's gonna be great. It's going to be great, yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So… People can find your book.
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::Douglas Sloan: going?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: where?
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::Douglas Sloan: It's on Amazon, and it's called Morphers, Monsters, and Mayhem.
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::Douglas Sloan: My travels through the Power Ranger Galaxy. Let me… let me actually do this.
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::Douglas Sloan: A little shameless self-promotion. Can you see that?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: There it is.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Great.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yay! And it's, available in paperback and in Kindle, and there's actually an audiobook, which I read myself.
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::Douglas Sloan: And people seem to really enjoy that, for some reason. I think because I really… I'm not too serious about it, I kind of take the, you know, piss out of myself, sorry for that. And…
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, I just don't really… I don't take it too seriously, and
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::Douglas Sloan: That's actually a great way to consume the book, and to… it's 11 hours, because the book is, like, 412 pages, which…
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::Douglas Sloan: blows my mind, even. But yeah, Amazon is the place to get it, and what all I ask is if you do get it, please, if you like it, leave a review. That's the crew… that's the thing about Amazon. You gotta have reviews, and I've, you know, it's… I've gotten great reviews, people love it, and…
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::Douglas Sloan: just keep… the more we get, the better off we are, and… and that's sort of where we're at. I mean, it's a fun read, it's not gonna change your life. It may teach you a few lessons about what people are really like, and how you can easily get fooled, and…
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::Douglas Sloan: And, screwed over, as they say. That was my first introduction to the showbiz, you know? The showbiz back…
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::Douglas Sloan: Going around your back, and… Screwing you over, but…
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::Douglas Sloan: It's a great lesson, you know? It's a great…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Interesting to… To read stories of things… of the way the world was during that period of time.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because there are people that will never experience it. We were talking about, you know, the…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The satisfaction of slamming down a receiver on the.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Something that most people will never know.
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::Douglas Sloan: Oh my god.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Or looking for a payphone.
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::Douglas Sloan: Right. Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because you didn't have one in your pocket?
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::Douglas Sloan: Yep, yep, or getting a busy signal.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I'm getting.
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::Douglas Sloan: That's easy.
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::Douglas Sloan: You know, or we were also talking about events. Like, what are the events now that you feel viscerally? Not that you watch on YouTube, but that you actually feel in your bones.
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::Douglas Sloan: You know, for me, when I went to my first Pink Floyd concert at Anaheim Stadium in California.
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::Douglas Sloan: I mean, it was…
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::Douglas Sloan: I can still feel it. It rained, and there was double rainbows in the sky, which had a Pink Floyd concert.
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::Douglas Sloan: is quite… quite a thing. It's… it's stuff that… I don't know, it… I wonder if people get that experience. I mean, I'm sure now, with people going to these big raves with DJs and stuff, maybe that's…
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::Douglas Sloan: The thing, but… For me, that… those moments were really, really…
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, huge for me. Just huge for me.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: They're, they're real life experiences.
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::Douglas Sloan: and we.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: have, and… As… as kids now, kids don't go outside and play.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: create like we used to. Like, my mom used to lock the door, and we were out until the lights came.
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::Douglas Sloan: Good point.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And if we were thirsty, we drank out of the hose, because, you know… There's water there.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, I literally, when I got home from school, I got on my bike, and I left, and my mother, when it was dinner time, would call my name out the front door, Douglas! Dinner, and somehow I would hear it and come home.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And it was usually right around the time when the streetlights came on.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, exactly.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That was their signal. It was a universal signal for all children.
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::Douglas Sloan: I gotta get home, man, it's getting dark, I'm gonna be in so much trouble.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah, exactly!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: bicycles.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, and it was just those… the first time you ever
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::Douglas Sloan: excuse me, smoked a joint with your friends in 8th grade, or whatever it was, and those are all these experiences that you did. It was a collective, it was a community. The first time you ever heard, you know, the new Elton John song.
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::Douglas Sloan: was at someone's house. I mean, I'll never forget this, I… it was,
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::Douglas Sloan: Bitch's Back by Elton John, and I heard it in the street, literally, and I was like, what is that? That's awesome! And I went to find where it was coming from, and it was coming from a house, I knocked on the door, I didn't know him, it was a couple other teenagers, and they said… I was like, what is that? And I said, Elton John, dude, come on in!
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::Douglas Sloan: I mean, when does that happen? Ever?
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I remember listening to, Bye-bye, Miss American Pie.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The first time I ever heard it was on the radio. Right. I was in Japan, so we only had one station in English, and they only played one hour of rock and roll a day.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My sisters and I were glued to the radio with our little tape recorder.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, yeah! Because that was the only way we could…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The song…
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::Douglas Sloan: over there.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And holding the thing up, waiting for them to play.
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::Douglas Sloan: There you go!
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It's so good!
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah. It's so wild, and you'd… or you'd sit by the radio and wait and wait and wait and wait until your song came on.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yes! So you could record it.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, yeah, it was awesome. But, you know, look.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: With your tape that you had to, like, use your pencil to.
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::Douglas Sloan: Oh, my God. Or 8 tracks, that was another one. Good lord. I mean, look, it's something to be said for everything.
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::Douglas Sloan: today, yesterday, whatever. And people are so completely obsessed with how awful things are today, and… but if you look through history, things have been a lot more awful in… throughout history. I mean, let's not forget…
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::Douglas Sloan: What horrors we have seen over the years, and what our…
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::Douglas Sloan: ancestors fought for, and what they… the crap they went through just to found this country. I mean, it's just, you know…
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::Douglas Sloan: It… it… it all passes.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I don't even know the story behind the national anthem.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You know, of, of… People being on a ship, watching this fork, waiting.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to make sure that flag was still there in the morning, because there were so few people in that fort to defend the flag being up. And in those days, you know, you took down one flag, and you put up the other.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: country was done.
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::Douglas Sloan: It was Capture the flag, basically, you know.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That was war back then.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: But absolutely, I mean, we just sing those words, we hear it every time we go to a sporting event.
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::Douglas Sloan: But our… and our flag was still there.
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::Douglas Sloan: I mean…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It chokes me up.
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::Douglas Sloan: You're not.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Because I know the story behind it. I know people bled and died… Yeah. …for…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: For our ability to live in this country, and to…
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, and to abolish slavery, and to… yeah, I mean, if you watch the movie Glory, that's one of the… that's a movie I would say every young person should watch, because that is a great American story, or even The Patriot, the Mel Gibson movie. You know, those movies really tell you… because my aunt… my whole mother's side of the family
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::Douglas Sloan: is from a little town in Massachusetts called Lincoln.
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::Douglas Sloan: which is right next to Concord and Lexington, and so…
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::Douglas Sloan: you know, that's where that crap all happened, so when I go there, there's a graveyard across from their house where all these soldiers are buried, so it's like…
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::Douglas Sloan: you get it. You get it, and you'll find a musket ball every once in a while in the grass or something, and it's like…
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So cool.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah, anyway… So yeah, hopefully people enjoy the book, and there will be another one forthcoming.
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::Douglas Sloan: And probably another one after that, about the DreamWorks years, which are not quite as funny, but…
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::Douglas Sloan: equally as interesting. But yeah, I really appreciate you having me, and.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I appreciate you joining us today.
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::Douglas Sloan: Yeah.
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::Douglas Sloan: Good combo.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can learn more about Douglas and find his book by visiting his Facebook account, facebook.com forward slash D slonewrights.
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::Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And we'll be sure and put both of these links directly to Amazon and also to his Facebook account in the description below. Thank you for joining us today. If you're ready to amplify your voice, monetize your mission, and start attracting premium clients, your next step is simple. Head to thecoachesalchemist.com and schedule your free client acquisition audit. Join us for our next episode as we share what others are doing to raise the global frequency, and remember.
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